I Told Mike Postle To “Make Some Money With The Moneymaker, From The Moneymaker”

This story was last updated Feb 14, 2020 at 4:12 p.m. (CST)
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By David B. Lukow, Esq.

A former floor supervisor at Stones Gambling Hall in Citrus Heights, Calif., Ben Dye has both watched the controversial poker pro play – and has played against him. He has full confidence in Mike Postle’s abilities as a player.

“I’ve only played against him a handful of times,” Dye, a Sacramento native, said. “He adapts to what the game’s doing. He knows how to read an opponent.”

Postle and Dye first met at Parkwest Casino Cordova about a decade ago. “I’ve known Mike since 2010 at Cordova,” Dye said. “I was dealing there.”

Now accused of cheating during live cash games that were streamed from Stones, Postle is the defendant in a $30 million lawsuit brought by 25 players (now over 80 co-plaintiffs) who state they suffered from the alleged cheating. According to some estimates, Postle won over $250,000 during the games.

* Related News – Multiple co-plaintiffs have been identified as having played numerous sessions with Postle at other casinos at the time its been reported he didn’t play anywhere else, including a game he hosted regularly at Magnolia House Casino.

Magnolia House Casino (Image – magnoliacasino Instagram)

Dye doesn’t believe the accusations against Postle have merit.

“I don’t buy it,” he said. “I was the first one to say it was bullsh*t when Veronica (Brill) made her posts.”

A former commentator on Stones Live Poker, Brill first intimated Postle was supposedly cheating during a broadcast, her last one for the venue. She would up her campaign via social media.

“I hadn’t heard anything about it until it came out through Twitter,” Dye said.

While working at Stones, Dye, who’s been employed in gaming since he was 18, saw Postle endure many days where he was on the losing end. “When Mike would cash out after, there were plenty of days he was down,” Dye said. “I know he lost significant amounts of money (on stream and off) several times at Stones.”

Although Dye’s statement regarding the losses is based on what Postle would tell him, he sees no reason not to believe the player.

“He came to Stones when he first got back in town (after winning a fight for full custody of his daughter),” Dye said. “I’ve never had any problems as far as him being straight with me.”

Dye said he didn’t have access to the live-stream software while at Stones, but he thinks a close examination of the data would prove beneficial for Postle.

“I haven’t followed it as closely, but if there’s more of a deficit, it’s going to come out he didn’t win as much,” Dye said. “If they do a thorough follow-up, they’ll see their numbers are off.”

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During his time at Stones Gambling Hall, Ben Dye talked with Mike Postle about what offbeat hands to play. The exchanges began after Dye said the veteran pro should play an A-7 one evening.

“That night, he hit quad sevens while playing the A-7 hand,” Dye said. “And I happened to be walking by the table when it happened.”

After the win, Postle and Dye regularly discussed which unlikely pairs to play.

“From then on, it became a thing. When Mike would check in, he would ask what the hand of the night was,” Dye said. “It would vary wildly, but would never be a hand you’d regularly play, hands like 4-9 for the (San Francisco) 49ers, 3-8 for the .38 Special, 10-4 as it’s probably the most popular radio code ever, etc. The idea was that if he got the particular hand, the first time he got it, he’d play it.”

One night, Chris Moneymaker, the winner of the Main Event at the 2003 World Series of Poker (WSOP) visited Stones.

“Mike stopped at the Stones Live table and chatted with Chris some,” Dye said. “I was making my rounds around the room and approached him. The discussion turned to the hand of the night and the hand Moneymaker won the Main Event with, the 5-4 off. Dye felt it was crazy enough to play.

“I told him to make some money with the Moneymaker, from the Moneymaker,” Dye said. “I thought that would be a movie-quality (situation).”

Dye didn’t actually know how the hand played out until the end of the night. “I was running the rest of the poker room.”

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We want to make it clear that Rounder Life Media is not giving an opinion as to whether or not we believe Mike Postle is innocent of these very serious allegations. We are searching for the truth, and reporting facts not unsubstantiated conjecture.

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In 2007 Rounder Magazine recognized Mike Postle as an elite pro and provided him with merchandise to promote the Rounder brand. No other considerations have been provided. Mr. Postle has never had ownership rights, nor has he ever been employed by Rounder. Rounder Life Media is not in a position to determine Mike Postle's guilt or innocence. This will be determined by the official investigation(s) being conducted, or through a court of law, not speculation. We will continue to pursue all relevant facts related to this case and report such, whether they support or disprove the charges. 

Corrections - Postle returned to Stones not Cordova (after winning a fight for full custody of his daughter). "When Mike would cash out after...(not come out after)"